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How can I tell if it's a Fillmore or Kurokumo?

Sunburst
Mosrite of California logo
Small Ventures logo
Vibramute
Ser#
Brown alligator case Mosrite logo

Hopefully photos soon

Photos will be needed but the "Mosrite of California" and Ventures logo points to a Kurokumo model. If it has the Vibramute then it was one of the higher end reissues. Does the kidney shaped neck plate say "Mosrite" on it? Does it have a serial number?

I have only one pic, Hard to tell but it doesn't look like the kidney shaped neck plate say "Mosrite" on it.

It does have a serial number, 1030.

Sellers pics.

Something about the Tremolo doesn't quite sit right with me. It just looks too rough. It looks like cast aluminum, weren't originals plated brass ? Not what one would expect from a higher end model.
Dan

The Tremolo bothers me too, as said it looks too rough. The guitar is said to be a used 65 reissue from 2008. About $1050, I'm having a look at it tomorrow.

panther wrote:Something about the Tremolo doesn't quite sit right with me. It just looks too rough. It looks like cast aluminum, weren't originals plated brass ? Not what one would expect from a higher end model.
Dan

I wouldn't be too concerned over the vibrato. Semie had the early ones sand cast out of aluminum. Some were rough and some were smooth others were polished out to a glossy shine. After w while they changed to plated brass. All are correct. My original '64 has the rough cast aluminum a lot like the one above.

dubtrub wrote:

panther wrote:Something about the Tremolo doesn't quite sit right with me. It just looks too rough. It looks like cast aluminum, weren't originals plated brass ? Not what one would expect from a higher end model.
Dan

I wouldn't be too concerned over the vibrato. Semie had the early ones sand cast out of aluminum. Some were rough and some were smooth others were polished out to a glossy shine. After w while they changed to plated brass. All are correct. My original '64 has the rough cast aluminum a lot like the one above.

So it could still be a higher end model?

Granis67 wrote:So it could still be a higher end model?

Absolutely! It's virtually identical to the original 64-65. Originals changed to nickled brass in 66 when they went with the headstock trussrod cover.

Got some new pics...

Wrong of me, no brown alligator case, rather blackish?




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