Fillmore or Kurokumo how can I tell?

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Re: Fillmore or Kurokumo how can I tell?

Postby dubtrub » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:34 am

Those are the spun knobs which are correct for a 64-65 Mosrite. Sixty six was the year everything changed. Up until 66 the guitars were basically still being handmade a few at a time, in 66 Mosrite went into in full scale production mode to keep up with demand.
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Re: Fillmore or Kurokumo how can I tell?

Postby Granis67 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:46 am

So, on the whole, ok features for a 65R. :D

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Re: Fillmore or Kurokumo how can I tell?

Postby panther » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:54 am

In the photos posted by Dub, the details in the tremolo are still substantially crisper. Just an observation. The edge detail are very uneven. The pattern around the Mosrite logo is shaped differently also, and not a very distinct recess. Just make sure to really check out anything that may give you a clue.
All said and done, Danny is much more qualified to make a call than I am, so go with his recommendations.

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Re: Fillmore or Kurokumo how can I tell?

Postby dubtrub » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:56 am

Granis67 wrote:So, on the whole, ok features for a 65R. :D

That guitar would be my preference over a "cookie cutter" type later model. My first choice would be a '63 sidejack but they get pricey. Upwards of $3000 for one MIJ, $30,000 for an original.
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Re: Fillmore or Kurokumo how can I tell?

Postby dubtrub » Sat Oct 22, 2016 8:59 am

panther wrote:In the photos posted by Dub, the details in the tremolo are still substantially crisper. Just an observation. The edge detail are very uneven. The pattern around the Mosrite logo is shaped differently also, and not a very distinct recess. Just make sure to really check out anything that may give you a clue.
All said and done, Danny is much more qualified to make a call than I am, so go with his recommendations.

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Keep in mind it is a reissue, so "close" to original is about all you're going to get. ;)
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Re: Fillmore or Kurokumo how can I tell?

Postby Granis67 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:09 am

That's a good observation and I've thought about it, but if the guitar feels and sounds ok that's fine with me. 8-)

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Re: Fillmore or Kurokumo how can I tell?

Postby Granis67 » Sat Oct 22, 2016 11:32 am

Hmm...this has become a bit more exciting than I hoped. it seems that one of the pickups has been replaced.

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Re: Fillmore or Kurokumo how can I tell?

Postby Granis67 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 12:52 pm

Neck pu
Mosrite logo
Plastic cover looks nice and even with sharp corners.

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Bridge pu
No logo
Plastic cover does not appear to be smooth, small holes in the plastic surface and the corners seem quite round.

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Same kind of screw poles on both pickups, Philip head with a small dot.

Why use different plastic covers, surface wise, logo wise and corner wise? :?

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Re: Fillmore or Kurokumo how can I tell?

Postby dubtrub » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:18 pm

The smooth type cover would be correct for pre-66. Those are fillister head screws not phillips head. Also the original pickup rings were cast resin with a rough texture.
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Re: Fillmore or Kurokumo how can I tell?

Postby Granis67 » Sun Oct 23, 2016 2:34 pm

dubtrub wrote:The smooth type cover would be correct for pre-66. Those are fillister head screws not phillips head. Also the original pickup rings were cast resin with a rough texture.


Thanks Danny,
Ahh, fillister head screw :oops: I have to check out my tool box a little more frequent. ;)

Still different pu cover, can't be right or?


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