Is this legit a '66?

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Is this legit a '66?

Postby khai123 » Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:35 pm

There's a picture of the neck tongue and it clearly appears to be stamped 1988... which would put this in the Jonas Ridge, Ventures Re-Issue era. Someone wanna weigh in on this?

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Re: Is this legit a '66?

Postby Bob Shade » Fri Nov 27, 2015 6:07 am

That is a late 1965 Ventures model made in Bakersfield Ca. Remarkable condition for it's age.

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Re: Is this legit a '66?

Postby khai123 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:44 am

See, that's the main reason I was doubting its authenticity, just so incredibly clean. That's not really a terrible price when considering how MINT it is, the case and the goodies are. Thanks for chiming in Bob! Trying to get the blood flowing in the veins of this site again, it used to be a vibrant wonderland of Mosrite enthusiasts with multiple threads expanding daily, these days it's a surprise if there's a new comment in a day. Anyways... that's truly a wonderful piece, I love the heel adjust models, I like the sleek no truss cover look of the earlier headstocks


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Re: Is this legit a '66?

Postby Bob Shade » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:16 am

Yes, it will be a late 65. After the Vibramutes and smooth knobs, but before the truss rod cover on the headstock like 66 and forward. The finish looks correct to me. They would be asking more if they knew it was a 65 I think. I have a Candy Red Vibramute that I refinished I would let go $3800.00 It looks just like it rolled off of the assembly line in 1965, and is a real 65 Vibramute! Best, Bob

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Re: Is this legit a '66?

Postby maxkat » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:36 am

The neck stamp tells it's from "Feb 9 1966", and the serial number 3672 says middle of 1966, too – so it's more an early–middle 1966 than a late 1965 ;)
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Re: Is this legit a '66?

Postby khai123 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:45 am

Okay this is probably ridiculous to ask, but I know the Vibramute models were on the original sidejacks and actually had a flip mute, but the name continues further past those, until 64-ish, early 65-ish, but those models have roller bridges and no flip mute... why are they labeled as and referred to as "Vibramutes"? Just left over cast bridge plates?

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Re: Is this legit a '66?

Postby Bob Shade » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:55 am

By 1966 the headstock had the truss rod adjustment there. Also without looking, the serial number sounds late 65. Sometimes, the 5 on the neck stamp looks like a 6. The ink can bleed in the wood grain. It is not impossible to be a 66 made with a 65 neck, as anything went on at Mosrite. My point is it has late 65 features.

Vibramutes with the actual flip mute were in 63 only. Why it was left on the plates till 66 is anyone's guess. This is what collectors want though, as this was what the Ventures used and were pictured with.

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Re: Is this legit a '66?

Postby khai123 » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:06 pm

Bob Shade wrote:By 1966 the headstock had the truss rod adjustment there. Also without looking, the serial number sounds late 65. Sometimes, the 5 on the neck stamp looks like a 6. The ink can bleed in the wood grain. It is not impossible to be a 66 made with a 65 neck, as anything went on at Mosrite. My point is it has late 65 features.

Vibramutes with the actual flip mute were in 63 only. Why it was left on the plates till 66 is anyone's guess. This is what collectors want though, as this was what the Ventures used and were pictured with.

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Okay, that's what I figured, they must be just leftover excess plates Semie had cast after he decided to opt out the flip mute. Thanks for clarifying that Bob! :)

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Re: Is this legit a '66?

Postby maxkat » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:24 pm

There have been no date stamps yet in February of 1965 (ink stamps appeared first in July '65), so the neck stamp definiteley says Nov 9 1966.
Trussrod adjustment at the headstock started early to mid 1966, and it has not been a sudden change. There's no difference in features between a late 1965 and a early to mid 1966 until the adjustment went to the headstock.

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Re: Is this legit a '66?

Postby tom villaflor » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:51 am

This sounds a lot like the time frame of my Mark 1...
truss rod at heel end
Best I remember ...neck pocket stamped 65 , neck tongue 66
7 pickguard screws
serial # 3850
I just always called it a 66..
I still have pics here somewhere...

any help clarifying mine from the professionals out there? Bob?

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